[Core] Karnataka meetings with Education Department on preparing School Opening Guidelines (LPS)

Guru Guru at ITforChange.net
Wed Oct 6 12:55:32 IST 2021


Dear all,
More detailed update on the  meeting at DSERT (SCERT Karnataka) on
preparing school opening guidelines for LPS (mostly opening post Dasara)

 1. We had an excellent meeting yesterday. As Niranjan mentioned, the
    Director sat throughout the meeting and fully participated and so
    did 6-7 of the department officers including some known for their
    academic inclinations  (Vedamoorthy, Vishwanath, Mangala). Unicef,
    Akshara Foundation, Sishana, Pratham, APU also participated.
 2. Sajitha had condensed the guidelines document which she had prepared
    into a slide deck, which I presented(Both attached). Others also
    echoed the sentiments expressed, which meant that the guidelines
    document" was in principle accepted.
 3. Anchal (APU) made a presentation on diagnostic assessments
    <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x8WsuAX4pvfBPIw0HsBaeGAOl6u_mfWa/view?usp=sharing>
    (an important addition to our education support group work). (google
    drive tinyurl.com/eeindia21 in educationsupport/assessment folder).
 4. Autonomy/space for the teacher, avoiding summative assessments,
    providing teacher resource support, 'ungraded' teaching-learning
    were all mentioned. But even as he listened carefully, Director also
    regularly kept saying 'competencies need to be achieved' in some
    time frame. Generally the 'open learning' idea found favour.
 5. Members suggested available resources (Nali Kali, Kali Nali, Oodu
    Kannada, Ganita Kalika...) which could be shared with teachers to
    refer to as resources to use instead of / along with the text books.
 6. The meeting was initially for half a day but extended post lunch.
    Anusha had recorded the discussions (attached), and I volunteered
    that we would draft the guidelines document for the group, using
    these minutes, this offer was accepted (since 'writing' the document
    together did not seem a good idea).
 7. We have to provide this draft this weekend and on Monday, members
    are supposed to revert with their comments (track changes) and
    next/final meeting on Tue to close out the guidelines doc from
    DSERT. This document is for grades 1-5 (as these schools are being
    opened post Dasara), but we need to emphasize  that most ideas would
    be relevant to the HPS/HS opened schools as well

Comments/suggestions welcome.

Copying *Maharasahtra* and *Jharkhand* groups to suggest that they too
could plan to meet the Department (Secretary/Commissioner? relevant
decision maker) with the NCEE School Opening Guidelines document and
offer it for discussions and issuing. So that  the steps suggested in
the guidelines document become part of the school opening planning of
the department. (We will format this document over next few days, and
share).  But you could consider taking this up with the department right
away (if appropriate).

regards,
Guru

On 06/10/21 11:00 am, Rishikesh . wrote:
> Thank you for the update Niranjan! Good to hear the positive news -
> yes, let’s work with DSERT to ensure children get the right kind of
> education once they are back in school - an even more crucial task
> after putting in the effort to open the schools.
> Thank you again.
> rishi 
>
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> *From:* Niranjanaradhya.V.P Aradhya <aradhyaniranjan at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 6, 2021 8:02:05 AM
> *To:* Rishikesh <rishikesh at apu.edu.in>; 'Guru' <Guru at ITforChange.net>;
> 'Mythili Ram' <mythiliramchand at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Brinda Rao' <brindaurao at gmail.com>; 'Sriranjani Ranganathan'
> <sriranjani.ranganathan at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Karnataka meetings with Education Department
>  
>
> Dear Rishi, 
>
> Thanks for the update. Yes, they may not agree for all our proposals
> to rethink the idea of the classroom transaction process ‘as usual’.
> However, yesterday’s meeting with the DSERT and group was a grand
> success, and we were able to build a consensus that classes I-V need a
> different approach since they are the worst affected. The director was
> sitting throughout the day which was a very positive engagement and
> collaboration. Let us work together to build an environment for larger
> transformative changes. We need to work more with DSERT since they
> understand our viewpoint better from the point of learning and
> pedagogy during this emergency  
>
> Regards, 
>
> Niranjan  
>
>
>
>
>
> Niranjanaradhya.V.P 
>
> Development Educationist, Mentor of SDMCs and  
>
> Chief Advocate of Neighbourhood Common School System  through  State
> Funded Public Education  
>
>    
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Rishikesh <rishikesh at apu.edu.in>
> *Sent:* 04 October 2021 4:13 PM
> *To:* 'Guru' <Guru at ITforChange.net>; 'Mythili Ram'
> <mythiliramchand at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Brinda Rao' <brindaurao at gmail.com>; 'niranjan aradhya'
> <aradhyaniranjan at hotmail.com>; 'Sriranjani Ranganathan'
> <sriranjani.ranganathan at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Karnataka meetings with Education Department
>  
>
> A quick update from today’s meeting with the CPI.
>
>  1. Told him that the document created by the NCEE has been mailed to
>     him.
>  2. He says the academic aspects are between us and DSERT.
>  3. Believes that things cannot be kept too open in terms of what
>     happens in school – referred to Niranjan’s suggestion on those lines.
>  4. He says though majority have not learnt anything, at the same time
>     those who have cannot be held back! Hence it is not very easy.
>
>  
>
> I think it was just a 50-50 meeting – he is not committing to issuing
> any orders of the kind we would have ideally liked, but at the same
> time is allowing us to collaborate with DSERT to bring some of the key
> aspects into the academic work as well as has sanctioned money for
> worksheets and MDM will also commence this month.
>
>  
>
> Hope tomorrow’s meeting at DSERT goes well.
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> rishi
>
>  
>
> *From:* Guru <Guru at ITforChange.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 6:53 PM
> *To:* Mythili Ram <mythiliramchand at gmail.com>; Rishikesh
> <rishikesh at apu.edu.in>
> *Cc:* Brinda Rao <brindaurao at gmail.com>; niranjan aradhya
> <aradhyaniranjan at hotmail.com>; Sriranjani Ranganathan
> <sriranjani.ranganathan at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Karnataka meetings with Education Department
>
>  
>
> thanks Mythili
>
> We will show the resources that Ranjani and edusupport group have been
> making available on the repository.  Since this is hopefully start of
> a longer engagement with DSERT, look forward to your active guidance.
>
> Niranjan, shall we meet on 3rd floor at around 10.15 am tomorrow.
>
> thanks and regards
> Guru
>
> On 03/10/21 1:46 pm, Mythili Ram wrote:
>
>     I agree! Wonderful that the meeting with CPI is bearing fruit
>     immediately. 
>
>     I am not free on Tuesday. But let me know if you need showcasing
>     of resources etc for the meeting.
>
>      
>
>     Mythili
>
>      
>
>     On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 12:22 PM Rishikesh <rishikesh at apu.edu.in
>     <mailto:rishikesh at apu.edu.in>> wrote:
>
>         Thanks Guru.
>
>          1. This is a direct result of Niranjan and you meeting the
>             CPI who had a review meeting with the DSERT and we are
>             already seeing some action.
>          2. I’ve also told them that there is a lot of work happening
>             on this front and NCEE is collating useful material hence
>             they should not be reinventing everything and instead use
>             the available resources and be fully prepared when schools
>             begin (hopefully Nov. 2).
>          3. I will not be able to join the meeting – Aanchal from our
>             side probably would – her team has also piloted an
>             assessment tool that teachers could use which also will be
>             available once APF has packaged everything (in another
>             week or so is what I hear).
>
>         The meeting is at 10:30 (Brinda had a query below) as per the
>         info I have.
>
>         Regards,
>
>         rishi
>
>          
>
>         *From:* Guru <Guru at ITforChange.net> <mailto:Guru at ITforChange.net>
>         *Sent:* Sunday, October 3, 2021 11:23 AM
>         *To:* Brinda Rao <brindaurao at gmail.com
>         <mailto:brindaurao at gmail.com>>
>         *Cc:* niranjan aradhya <aradhyaniranjan at hotmail.com
>         <mailto:aradhyaniranjan at hotmail.com>>; Sriranjani Ranganathan
>         <sriranjani.ranganathan at gmail.com
>         <mailto:sriranjani.ranganathan at gmail.com>>;
>         mythiliramchand at gmail.com <mailto:mythiliramchand at gmail.com>;
>         Rishikesh <rishikesh at apu.edu.in <mailto:rishikesh at apu.edu.in>>
>         *Subject:* Re: Karnataka meetings with Education Department
>
>          
>
>         thanks Brinda
>
>         This is Tuesday morning. Once I get confirmation on the timing
>         I will inform
>         If you could make a couple of slides on Kannada language
>         learning ideas/materials that  would be great (you can also of
>         course show/refer to the wiki repository if relevant).
>
>         Mythili/Rishi
>         will you be able to join this meeting with DSERT on Tue first
>         half?
>
>         regards
>         Guru
>
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>         On 03/10/21 10:32 am, Brinda Rao wrote:
>
>             Sure Guru. I will join you. Let me know what time and if
>             you need me to be prepared with anything specific.. :)
>
>              
>
>             On Sat, Oct 2, 2021, 18:21 Guru <Guru at itforchange.net
>             <mailto:Guru at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>
>                 Further updates:
>
>                 Rishikesh will be meeting Karnataka Commissioner on
>                 Monday and will hand over the Guidelines (with updates
>                 as received from Ranjani) from the NCEE. The idea is
>                 for the guidelines to be  Vol 1 and for the resource
>                 materials to be Vol 2. Vol 2 will keep getting added
>                 as we keep collating and making available on the
>                 repository
>
>                 Commissioner has asked DSERT to get inputs from NCEE
>                 (and others?) on  what instructions DSERT should give
>                 to schools on the curriculum post opening.
>                 DSERT called Niranjan and has asked us to meet them on
>                 Tuesday.  I request all Bengaluru based folks to
>                 volunteer to participate (Mythili and Brinda, request
>                 your participation).
>                 Anyone not marked in this mail, we should invite to
>                 the meeting?
>                 Look forward to your inputs -  we should make a small
>                 presentation with highlights from the guidelines
>                 documents.
>
>                 regards,
>                 Guru
>                 Copied Maharashtra, Jharkhand groups for info.
>                 Mailing lists member information is available here
>                 <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tCl0hkExUeRvM4GGvKw8NCJYeTTzLG-qt6xiMC3BF3g/edit#gid=1575295778>
>
>
>                 On 27/09/21 7:52 pm, Guru wrote:
>
>                     Dear all,
>
>                     Niranjan Aradhya and I had useful meetings today
>                     with Commissioner, Director (Primary), Director
>                     (Secondary), Director (SSK) and SPD, SSK today
>                     (Secretary was on leave). We gave them the
>                     *Research Brief*
>                     <https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/coalition-releases-research-brief/>
>                     in Kannada
>                     <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fzhuqd3qRs_hdApq4n_TwpR2b82M7TvZ/view?usp=sharing>
>                     (Thanks to Brinda for translating and Sreemoyee
>                     for productionising) and a note on "*Revising
>                     instructional processes
>                     <https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/revising-instructional-processes-on-school-opening/>"*
>                     (thanks to Ranjani), this is the next version of
>                     the note that Ranjani had earlier shared for
>                     Rishi's meeting with MOE.
>
>                      1. *Commissioner* listened keenly and he and all
>                         directors were fully agreeable that LPS must
>                         open. So the issue seems to be fear (who will
>                         be responsible if children fall ill/die) at
>                         the political leadership. Of course, we
>                         clarified that attendance should be voluntary
>                         and parents who want to send children should
>                         be able to. Also children are not in sterile
>                         environments in most cases at home/community
>                         and susceptibility to virus is low and harm
>                         from closure is high.
>                      2. He was keen to get more detailed academic
>                         guidelines and requested us to share same with
>                         him to discuss with SCERT and Minister. We
>                         said we would share and also that a wider
>                         consultative process would be needed (I
>                         mentioned "wider consultation is happening in
>                         TN" and "TN has made special budgetary
>                         allocation" at the slightest opportunity :-)).
>                         He said he would convene such a process.
>                      3. He also said instructions to resume MMS have
>                         already  been given...but there are  some long
>                         wided processes to resume (procurement of food
>                         grains and said resumption would  be from Oct
>                         15, post the dasara holidays). He was very
>                         clear on this.
>                      4. *SPD* said they do not have  any funding 
>                         issues when I mentioned TN special provision.
>                         I mentioned schools will need untied grants to
>                         take care of local repairs/infrastructure,
>                         health precautions, additional learning
>                         materials etc. More follow up needed here as
>                         she was quite placid. Special untied school
>                         grant must be insisted.
>                      5. All *DPIs* agreed fully that LPS must open
>                         asap. They seemed to suggest  that the
>                         decision was at the CM's level (a meeting is
>                         scheduled this month end where they will
>                         decide to open LPS is the feeling)
>
>                     Similar meetings could be planned in other states
>                     also - AP/Telangana, Maharashtra, Jharkhand... The
>                     research brief in English, Hindi and Kannada is
>                     available
>                     on*https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/coalition-releases-research-brief
>                     <https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/coalition-releases-research-brief>
>                     * and the revising instructional processes on
>                     *https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/revising-instructional-processes-on-school-opening/
>                     <https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/revising-instructional-processes-on-school-opening/>*
>
>                     *Immediate need from department is a more detailed
>                     academic guidelines ("What should teachers do when
>                     schools open - across grades and 'subjects'). This
>                     is something we should focus on as all state govts
>                     will be keen to have this. *
>
>                     regards,
>                     Guru
>
>                  
>
>          
>
>  
>

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