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Dear all,<br>
More detailed update on the meeting at DSERT (SCERT Karnataka) on
preparing school opening guidelines for LPS (mostly opening post
Dasara)<br>
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<li>We had an excellent meeting yesterday. As Niranjan mentioned,
the Director sat throughout the meeting and fully participated
and so did 6-7 of the department officers including some known
for their academic inclinations (Vedamoorthy, Vishwanath,
Mangala). Unicef, Akshara Foundation, Sishana, Pratham, APU also
participated.</li>
<li>Sajitha had condensed the guidelines document which she had
prepared into a slide deck, which I presented(Both attached).
Others also echoed the sentiments expressed, which meant that
the guidelines document" was in principle accepted. </li>
<li>Anchal (APU) made a presentation on <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x8WsuAX4pvfBPIw0HsBaeGAOl6u_mfWa/view?usp=sharing">diagnostic
assessments</a> (an important addition to our education
support group work). (google drive tinyurl.com/eeindia21 in
educationsupport/assessment folder).</li>
<li>Autonomy/space for the teacher, avoiding summative
assessments, providing teacher resource support, 'ungraded'
teaching-learning were all mentioned. But even as he listened
carefully, Director also regularly kept saying 'competencies
need to be achieved' in some time frame. Generally the 'open
learning' idea found favour.</li>
<li>Members suggested available resources (Nali Kali, Kali Nali,
Oodu Kannada, Ganita Kalika...) which could be shared with
teachers to refer to as resources to use instead of / along with
the text books.<br>
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<li>The meeting was initially for half a day but extended post
lunch. Anusha had recorded the discussions (attached), and I
volunteered that we would draft the guidelines document for the
group, using these minutes, this offer was accepted (since
'writing' the document together did not seem a good idea). <br>
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<li>We have to provide this draft this weekend and on Monday,
members are supposed to revert with their comments (track
changes) and next/final meeting on Tue to close out the
guidelines doc from DSERT. This document is for grades 1-5 (as
these schools are being opened post Dasara), but we need to
emphasize that most ideas would be relevant to the HPS/HS
opened schools as well<br>
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Comments/suggestions welcome. <br>
<br>
Copying <b>Maharasahtra</b> and <b>Jharkhand</b> groups to suggest
that they too could plan to meet the Department
(Secretary/Commissioner? relevant decision maker) with the NCEE
School Opening Guidelines document and offer it for discussions and
issuing. So that the steps suggested in the guidelines document
become part of the school opening planning of the department. (We
will format this document over next few days, and share). But you
could consider taking this up with the department right away (if
appropriate). <br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Guru<br>
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Thank you for the update Niranjan! Good to hear the positive
news - yes, let’s work with DSERT to ensure children get the
right kind of education once they are back in school - an
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Thanks for the update. Yes, they may not agree for all our
proposals to rethink the idea of the classroom transaction
process ‘as usual’. However, yesterday’s meeting with the
DSERT and group was a grand success, and we were able to
build a consensus that classes I-V need a different approach
since they are the worst affected. The director was sitting
throughout the day which was a very positive engagement and
collaboration. Let us work together to build an environment
for larger transformative changes. We need to work more with
DSERT since they understand our viewpoint better from the
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<b>Sent:</b> 04 October 2021 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Guru' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Guru@ITforChange.net"><Guru@ITforChange.net></a>; 'Mythili
Ram' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mythiliramchand@gmail.com"><mythiliramchand@gmail.com></a><br>
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Told him that the document created by the NCEE has
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He says the academic aspects are between us and DSERT.</li>
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Believes that things cannot be kept too open in terms
of what happens in school – referred to Niranjan’s
suggestion on those lines.
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He says though majority have not learnt anything, at
the same time those who have cannot be held back!
Hence it is not very easy.</li>
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I think it was just a 50-50 meeting – he is not
committing to issuing any orders of the kind we would
have ideally liked, but at the same time is allowing us
to collaborate with DSERT to bring some of the key
aspects into the academic work as well as has sanctioned
money for worksheets and MDM will also commence this
month.</p>
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Hope tomorrow’s meeting at DSERT goes well.</p>
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<b>From:</b> Guru <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Guru@ITforChange.net"><Guru@ITforChange.net></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 4, 2021 6:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mythili Ram
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mythiliramchand@gmail.com"><mythiliramchand@gmail.com></a>; Rishikesh
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rishikesh@apu.edu.in"><rishikesh@apu.edu.in></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Brinda Rao <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brindaurao@gmail.com"><brindaurao@gmail.com></a>;
niranjan aradhya
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aradhyaniranjan@hotmail.com"><aradhyaniranjan@hotmail.com></a>; Sriranjani
Ranganathan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sriranjani.ranganathan@gmail.com"><sriranjani.ranganathan@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Karnataka meetings with
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thanks Mythili<br>
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We will show the resources that Ranjani and edusupport
group have been making available on the repository.
Since this is hopefully start of a longer engagement
with DSERT, look forward to your active guidance.
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Niranjan, shall we meet on 3rd floor at around 10.15 am
tomorrow.<br>
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thanks and regards<br>
Guru<br>
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On 03/10/21 1:46 pm, Mythili Ram wrote:<br>
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I agree! Wonderful that the meeting with CPI is
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I am not free on Tuesday. But let me know if you
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On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, 12:22 PM Rishikesh <<a
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Thanks Guru.</p>
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This is a direct result of Niranjan and you
meeting the CPI who had a review meeting
with the DSERT and we are already seeing
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I’ve also told them that there is a lot of
work happening on this front and NCEE is
collating useful material hence they should
not be reinventing everything and instead
use the available resources and be fully
prepared when schools begin (hopefully Nov.
2).</li>
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I will not be able to join the meeting –
Aanchal from our side probably would – her
team has also piloted an assessment tool
that teachers could use which also will be
available once APF has packaged everything
(in another week or so is what I hear).
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The meeting is at 10:30 (Brinda had a query
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 3, 2021 11:23
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brinda Rao <<a
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<b>Cc:</b> niranjan aradhya <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sriranjani.ranganathan@gmail.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:mythiliramchand@gmail.com"
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thanks Brinda<br>
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This is Tuesday morning. Once I get
confirmation on the timing I will inform<br>
If you could make a couple of slides on
Kannada language learning ideas/materials
that would be great (you can also of course
show/refer to the wiki repository if
relevant).<br>
<br>
Mythili/Rishi<br>
will you be able to join this meeting with
DSERT on Tue first half?<br>
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regards<br>
Guru</p>
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Sure Guru. I will join you. Let me know
what time and if you need me to be
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Further updates:<br>
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Rishikesh will be meeting Karnataka
Commissioner on Monday and will hand
over the Guidelines (with updates as
received from Ranjani) from the NCEE.
The idea is for the guidelines to be
Vol 1 and for the resource materials
to be Vol 2. Vol 2 will keep getting
added as we keep collating and making
available on the repository<br>
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Commissioner has asked DSERT to get
inputs from NCEE (and others?) on
what instructions DSERT should give to
schools on the curriculum post
opening.
<br>
DSERT called Niranjan and has asked us
to meet them on Tuesday. I request
all Bengaluru based folks to volunteer
to participate (Mythili and Brinda,
request your participation).
<br>
Anyone not marked in this mail, we
should invite to the meeting?<br>
Look forward to your inputs - we
should make a small presentation with
highlights from the guidelines
documents.<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Guru<br>
Copied Maharashtra, Jharkhand groups
for info.<br>
Mailing lists member information is
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On 27/09/21 7:52 pm, Guru wrote:</p>
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
Niranjan Aradhya and I had useful
meetings today with Commissioner,
Director (Primary), Director
(Secondary), Director (SSK) and SPD,
SSK today (Secretary was on leave).
We gave them the
<a
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<b>Research Brief</b></a> in <a
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Kannada</a> (Thanks to Brinda for
translating and Sreemoyee for
productionising) and a note on "<b><a
href="https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/revising-instructional-processes-on-school-opening/"
target="_blank"
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instructional processes</a>"</b>
(thanks to Ranjani), this is the
next version of the note that
Ranjani had earlier shared for
Rishi's meeting with MOE.</p>
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<b>Commissioner</b> listened
keenly and he and all directors
were fully agreeable that LPS must
open. So the issue seems to be
fear (who will be responsible if
children fall ill/die) at the
political leadership. Of course,
we clarified that attendance
should be voluntary and parents
who want to send children should
be able to. Also children are not
in sterile environments in most
cases at home/community and
susceptibility to virus is low and
harm from closure is high.
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He was keen to get more detailed
academic guidelines and requested
us to share same with him to
discuss with SCERT and Minister.
We said we would share and also
that a wider consultative process
would be needed (I mentioned
"wider consultation is happening
in TN" and "TN has made special
budgetary allocation" at the
slightest opportunity :-)). He
said he would convene such a
process.</li>
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He also said instructions to
resume MMS have already been
given...but there are some long
wided processes to resume
(procurement of food grains and
said resumption would be from Oct
15, post the dasara holidays). He
was very clear on this.
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<b>SPD</b> said they do not have
any funding issues when I
mentioned TN special provision. I
mentioned schools will need untied
grants to take care of local
repairs/infrastructure, health
precautions, additional learning
materials etc. More follow up
needed here as she was quite
placid. Special untied school
grant must be insisted.</li>
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All <b>DPIs</b> agreed fully that
LPS must open asap. They seemed to
suggest that the decision was at
the CM's level (a meeting is
scheduled this month end where
they will decide to open LPS is
the feeling)</li>
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Similar meetings could be planned in
other states also - AP/Telangana,
Maharashtra, Jharkhand... The
research brief in English, Hindi and
Kannada is available on<b>
<a
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https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/coalition-releases-research-brief</a>
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and the revising instructional
processes on <b><a
href="https://educationemergency.net/2021/09/revising-instructional-processes-on-school-opening/"
target="_blank"
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<b><span style="color:#5A30ED">Immediate
need from department is a more
detailed academic guidelines
("What should teachers do when
schools open - across grades and
'subjects'). This is something
we should focus on as all state
govts will be keen to have this.
</span></b><br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Guru</p>
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